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		<title>By: Val Fitzgerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val Fitzgerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 16:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raven:

We have--as I told you back in July that we would--taken our country back. Happened on Election Day, in case you were out to lunch somewhere. The Liberals who built America took it back from the rotten disgusting NeoCON, triple-damned cowards and thieves, who tried to steal our country. Raven--things are going to be a lot different from what they have been, recently. Because if they&#039;re not, the rest of the country--which spoke loud and clear on Nov. 7, 2006--will hire different people to fix America up, the way it was before 2000--the way that it should be, again.

Waxman (Henry) took one look and recoiled--his Government Oversight Committee mandate, will be keeping him busy, night and day. 100 HOURS???   100 YEARS will be more like what it&#039;ll take, just to print up all the Subpoenas that he&#039;ll be needing; hopefully the first four will be to:  Bush, Cheney, Rice and Rumsfeld (who, seeing the handwriting on the wall, did the cut &amp; run thing (which shows that he at least, is not crazy!)

And the New York Times--once more--is heroic as it always has been, in times of would-be dictatorship. That&#039;s what it is supposed to be; that&#039;s one of the inalienable (and I don&#039;t use the word lightly) freedoms that our Founding Fathers passed down to us, and which, since the year 2000, and right on up to this Election Day just past, truly were in mortal danger--even worse than they had been, under Nixon! Making the NY Times stance even more heroic: because Bush The Son, makes Nixon--bad as he was--look like a statesman!

Oh--and guess what else?! Bush--35 years after his Daddy fought tooth and nail to keep his little scared baby ass out of Vietnam--Bush is, actually, finally going to Vietnam!!!

Of course, there&#039;s no war going on there, anymore. It&#039;s peaceful now, in Vietnam.  Otherwise, the Coward-In-Chief would be going nowhere near there; count on it!
AMERICA--LOVE IT (AND THE LIBERALS WHO FOUNDED IT, FOUGHT FOR IT, AND DIED FOR IT)--OR, LEAVE IT!

GOD BLESS OUR GREAT COUNTRY!  AND NOW, LET OUR TROOPS COME HOME FROM THE BUSH&amp;CO-DRIVEN, CHARNEL HOUSE CALLED IRAQ. LET NOT ONE MORE DIE FOR THE GREED &amp; PROFIT-DRIVEN CROOKS, SHITHEELS AND THIEVES WHO ARE NOW OUR (VERY) TEMPORARY, LEADERS...GOD BLESS OUR GREAT COUNTRY, AND GOD BLESS THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE SO LOUDLY, ON ELECTION DAY 2006!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raven:</p>
<p>We have&#8211;as I told you back in July that we would&#8211;taken our country back. Happened on Election Day, in case you were out to lunch somewhere. The Liberals who built America took it back from the rotten disgusting NeoCON, triple-damned cowards and thieves, who tried to steal our country. Raven&#8211;things are going to be a lot different from what they have been, recently. Because if they&#8217;re not, the rest of the country&#8211;which spoke loud and clear on Nov. 7, 2006&#8211;will hire different people to fix America up, the way it was before 2000&#8211;the way that it should be, again.</p>
<p>Waxman (Henry) took one look and recoiled&#8211;his Government Oversight Committee mandate, will be keeping him busy, night and day. 100 HOURS???   100 YEARS will be more like what it&#8217;ll take, just to print up all the Subpoenas that he&#8217;ll be needing; hopefully the first four will be to:  Bush, Cheney, Rice and Rumsfeld (who, seeing the handwriting on the wall, did the cut &amp; run thing (which shows that he at least, is not crazy!)</p>
<p>And the New York Times&#8211;once more&#8211;is heroic as it always has been, in times of would-be dictatorship. That&#8217;s what it is supposed to be; that&#8217;s one of the inalienable (and I don&#8217;t use the word lightly) freedoms that our Founding Fathers passed down to us, and which, since the year 2000, and right on up to this Election Day just past, truly were in mortal danger&#8211;even worse than they had been, under Nixon! Making the NY Times stance even more heroic: because Bush The Son, makes Nixon&#8211;bad as he was&#8211;look like a statesman!</p>
<p>Oh&#8211;and guess what else?! Bush&#8211;35 years after his Daddy fought tooth and nail to keep his little scared baby ass out of Vietnam&#8211;Bush is, actually, finally going to Vietnam!!!</p>
<p>Of course, there&#8217;s no war going on there, anymore. It&#8217;s peaceful now, in Vietnam.  Otherwise, the Coward-In-Chief would be going nowhere near there; count on it!<br />
AMERICA&#8211;LOVE IT (AND THE LIBERALS WHO FOUNDED IT, FOUGHT FOR IT, AND DIED FOR IT)&#8211;OR, LEAVE IT!</p>
<p>GOD BLESS OUR GREAT COUNTRY!  AND NOW, LET OUR TROOPS COME HOME FROM THE BUSH&amp;CO-DRIVEN, CHARNEL HOUSE CALLED IRAQ. LET NOT ONE MORE DIE FOR THE GREED &amp; PROFIT-DRIVEN CROOKS, SHITHEELS AND THIEVES WHO ARE NOW OUR (VERY) TEMPORARY, LEADERS&#8230;GOD BLESS OUR GREAT COUNTRY, AND GOD BLESS THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE SO LOUDLY, ON ELECTION DAY 2006!</p>
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		<title>By: Nevarre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nevarre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jul 2006 11:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As George Orwell wrote, we human beings are capable of convincing ourselves of something that&#039;s not true long after the accumulated evidence would convince any reasonable person that it&#039;s wrong. In short, no matter what is submitted here, even if it is the truth, your belief system will forbid you to submit to it. It is therefore, laughable that on the very pages that you trash the liberties of a free press, you proudly bear the phrase, &quot;Give me liberty or give me death.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As George Orwell wrote, we human beings are capable of convincing ourselves of something that&#8217;s not true long after the accumulated evidence would convince any reasonable person that it&#8217;s wrong. In short, no matter what is submitted here, even if it is the truth, your belief system will forbid you to submit to it. It is therefore, laughable that on the very pages that you trash the liberties of a free press, you proudly bear the phrase, &#8220;Give me liberty or give me death.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mange</title>
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		<dc:creator>mange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The NYT will have to change because we, the American people don’t take our lives lightly.&quot;
NO Raven,
You do not speak for the American people. You&#039;re a fearful individual and real Americans aren&#039;t fearful. Like most conservatives you&#039;re really a coward, all too ready to send others to die for your morally bankrupt agendas. It figures your heros (W, Cheney, Limbaugh, Wolfowitz, Pearl, etc..) are today&#039;s chicken-hawks who ran when their time to serve came about. Stop shaking and crawling out from under your covers sometime-and pull your head out of Bush&#039;s ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The NYT will have to change because we, the American people don’t take our lives lightly.&#8221;<br />
NO Raven,<br />
You do not speak for the American people. You&#8217;re a fearful individual and real Americans aren&#8217;t fearful. Like most conservatives you&#8217;re really a coward, all too ready to send others to die for your morally bankrupt agendas. It figures your heros (W, Cheney, Limbaugh, Wolfowitz, Pearl, etc..) are today&#8217;s chicken-hawks who ran when their time to serve came about. Stop shaking and crawling out from under your covers sometime-and pull your head out of Bush&#8217;s ass.</p>
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		<title>By: mange</title>
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		<dc:creator>mange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 22:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ravin&#039; Raven,
You expose yourself as another hapless dupe in the fallacious &#039;War on Terror&#039;. Fear is your achilles heel. ~3000 killed in the 9/11 &#039;attack&#039; and we respond with 10s of thousands killed and 100s of billions wasted. Each year 400,000 Americans die from health related affects of cigarette smoke and our response is a comparable pittance. Where is the proportionality? There is none. In reality the war on terror is the greatest land/power grab since America was stolen from the Indians. The Coward in Chief loves gullible fools like you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ravin&#8217; Raven,<br />
You expose yourself as another hapless dupe in the fallacious &#8216;War on Terror&#8217;. Fear is your achilles heel. ~3000 killed in the 9/11 &#8216;attack&#8217; and we respond with 10s of thousands killed and 100s of billions wasted. Each year 400,000 Americans die from health related affects of cigarette smoke and our response is a comparable pittance. Where is the proportionality? There is none. In reality the war on terror is the greatest land/power grab since America was stolen from the Indians. The Coward in Chief loves gullible fools like you.</p>
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		<title>By: Left+Right=Yay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Left+Right=Yay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 22:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first, I thought that this was funny. Then, I thought that this was getting wearying. Now, I&#039;m actually kind of angry. Do ANY of you actually listen to yourselves? &quot;The Democrats do this&quot; &quot;Republicans don&#039;t do that&quot;&quot;George is this&quot;&quot;Clinton was that&quot;

I MEAN REALLY! Has everyone lost sight of the big picture here? It is not a question of which side is right; they&#039;re both HORRIBLY flawed. It is not even a question of which STANCE is right or wrong. It&#039;s a question of what is best for EVERYBODY. Republicans AND Democrats. Liberals AND Conservatives. Because, in the end, we are ALL Americans, and we ALL deserve the same ammount of respect. RAVEN...I&#039;m sure that you are a nice, Christian person, right? Now, forgive me if I&#039;m steriotyping you, but you seem, to me, like you are some denomination of Christianity (Catholic, Evangelical, Lutheran, ect) Does the Bible not say that you should LOVE thy neighbor? Does it not say to turn the other cheek? It does. How, may I ask, are you loving your neighbor? By shouting at them? By calling them &quot;Cowards&quot;. Yes, others have done the same thing, but that is where that little &quot;cheek-turning&quot; thing comes in. Yes, it&#039;s inconveniant. Yes, sometimes you just want to go ahead and punch. But that isn&#039;t neccissarily what you SHOULD do...

And as for the comment about, &quot;The less people here like you the better off this country is.&quot; When I first read that, I was honestly rendered QUITE speachless. The whole reason that the UNITED states of America was founded was so that the colonists would have a country of their own, a country that they could be themselves in, a country in which they didn&#039;t have to live under the rule of ONE man, a country where they could be FREE. If you think that one uniform blob of people is a good thing- and it is YOUR oppinion, I&#039;m not belitting that- than it seems that you are looking not for a democracy, or even a republic, but a full on dictatorship.

I&#039;m going to stop now- or at least in a wee bit- because I have a feeling that this isn&#039;t REALLY going to be of any help to ANYONE. Some will accuse me of being just another stupid,un-patriotic liberal. Some will accuse me of &quot;siding with the enemy&quot;. What I&#039;m trying to point out, however, is that we shouldn&#039;t be picking sides AT ALL. If we are meant to stand united, then we have to unite. Just think about what happened after the attack on the WTC; the whole country united into one giant, flag-waving ball of Americans. And we ruled. I was never more proud of America. Now, we are tearing ourselves apart. These people over here, those over there, and the few in-between don&#039;t matter. Well, as we can see, that strategy does NOT work. In fact, we are setting ourselves up for a BIG fall in the near future.

One last comment, and I&#039;ll shut up...
I have to tell you, Raven, that your comment that, &quot;9-11 was a freak. It’s a once in a lifetime occurance.&quot; honestly made me laugh out loud. A freak? Once-in-a-lifetime? Are you SERIOUS?! THAT line of thinking is what allowed it to happen in the first place. America&#039;s goverment (Bush, Clinton, and many before them) were lulled into a false sense of security. Oh, we&#039;re AMERICA. NOTHING can happen to us; we&#039;re too AWESOME! Then something bad DID happen, and it shook us up. We were suddenly afraid, unconfidant, AWARE. Just like all the other countries out there who face these things EVERY DAY. Now, we&#039;re back to strutting. We&#039;ve seemed to have forgotten our mortality again. And you can be sure that another attack will come; they allways do.

And I apologize for the overly-long reply...but I just felt that I had to say what I said...er, TYPED anyways. Thanks for (hopefully) listening:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first, I thought that this was funny. Then, I thought that this was getting wearying. Now, I&#8217;m actually kind of angry. Do ANY of you actually listen to yourselves? &#8220;The Democrats do this&#8221; &#8220;Republicans don&#8217;t do that&#8221;"George is this&#8221;"Clinton was that&#8221;</p>
<p>I MEAN REALLY! Has everyone lost sight of the big picture here? It is not a question of which side is right; they&#8217;re both HORRIBLY flawed. It is not even a question of which STANCE is right or wrong. It&#8217;s a question of what is best for EVERYBODY. Republicans AND Democrats. Liberals AND Conservatives. Because, in the end, we are ALL Americans, and we ALL deserve the same ammount of respect. RAVEN&#8230;I&#8217;m sure that you are a nice, Christian person, right? Now, forgive me if I&#8217;m steriotyping you, but you seem, to me, like you are some denomination of Christianity (Catholic, Evangelical, Lutheran, ect) Does the Bible not say that you should LOVE thy neighbor? Does it not say to turn the other cheek? It does. How, may I ask, are you loving your neighbor? By shouting at them? By calling them &#8220;Cowards&#8221;. Yes, others have done the same thing, but that is where that little &#8220;cheek-turning&#8221; thing comes in. Yes, it&#8217;s inconveniant. Yes, sometimes you just want to go ahead and punch. But that isn&#8217;t neccissarily what you SHOULD do&#8230;</p>
<p>And as for the comment about, &#8220;The less people here like you the better off this country is.&#8221; When I first read that, I was honestly rendered QUITE speachless. The whole reason that the UNITED states of America was founded was so that the colonists would have a country of their own, a country that they could be themselves in, a country in which they didn&#8217;t have to live under the rule of ONE man, a country where they could be FREE. If you think that one uniform blob of people is a good thing- and it is YOUR oppinion, I&#8217;m not belitting that- than it seems that you are looking not for a democracy, or even a republic, but a full on dictatorship.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to stop now- or at least in a wee bit- because I have a feeling that this isn&#8217;t REALLY going to be of any help to ANYONE. Some will accuse me of being just another stupid,un-patriotic liberal. Some will accuse me of &#8220;siding with the enemy&#8221;. What I&#8217;m trying to point out, however, is that we shouldn&#8217;t be picking sides AT ALL. If we are meant to stand united, then we have to unite. Just think about what happened after the attack on the WTC; the whole country united into one giant, flag-waving ball of Americans. And we ruled. I was never more proud of America. Now, we are tearing ourselves apart. These people over here, those over there, and the few in-between don&#8217;t matter. Well, as we can see, that strategy does NOT work. In fact, we are setting ourselves up for a BIG fall in the near future.</p>
<p>One last comment, and I&#8217;ll shut up&#8230;<br />
I have to tell you, Raven, that your comment that, &#8220;9-11 was a freak. It’s a once in a lifetime occurance.&#8221; honestly made me laugh out loud. A freak? Once-in-a-lifetime? Are you SERIOUS?! THAT line of thinking is what allowed it to happen in the first place. America&#8217;s goverment (Bush, Clinton, and many before them) were lulled into a false sense of security. Oh, we&#8217;re AMERICA. NOTHING can happen to us; we&#8217;re too AWESOME! Then something bad DID happen, and it shook us up. We were suddenly afraid, unconfidant, AWARE. Just like all the other countries out there who face these things EVERY DAY. Now, we&#8217;re back to strutting. We&#8217;ve seemed to have forgotten our mortality again. And you can be sure that another attack will come; they allways do.</p>
<p>And I apologize for the overly-long reply&#8230;but I just felt that I had to say what I said&#8230;er, TYPED anyways. Thanks for (hopefully) listening:)</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 05:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And editors decided to use their opinion pages and front pages as tools to alter public thinking&quot;

You mean like everyone in the government does everyday?

&quot;Eavesdropping? On foreigners who we suspected of being terrorists.&quot;

We only suspect them of being terrorists many of them are innocent. We have imprisoned people we suspected of being terrorists. They were not proven to be and some are completely innocent.

&quot;Heh, there YOU go again, disclosing shit that only the terrorists would know. What a sneaky way to do this. Scums.&quot;

Wow you are something. They didn&#039;t give any details. And shit there are people out there who know about this stuff and they know the details but no one listens to them.


Well you need to be fired then. You’re irresponsible. 

&quot;You’re a mouthpiece to the Democrats and we’re sick of you putting us at risk. Keep it up. The NYT will have to change because we, the American people don’t take our lives lightly. We expect our media to be responsible and respectful of this. Appearenty you’re on a different page than we.&quot;

You are only speaking for yourself not the American people, so don’t make it sound like everyone is backing you on this for I and my company mostly disagree with you. 
The NYT doesn&#039;t have to change. They have freedom of press and as soon as you censor one you have to censor them all killing this freedom. If this happens the government will walk all over this country and all the McCarthy&#039;s and corrupt officials will win. Bush is un-American because he doesn&#039;t listen to the people. He changes the topic so many times to avoid the real issues at hand. 
Sure some of the things Bush has done have been good for this country but that isn’t what makes a good president. What makes a good president is all the bad things they do….or lack there of to be more precise.

The NYT and the LAT are just doing their part to insure that this country&#039;s freedoms are held strong and to help educate the people.

P.S. not to nit pick but it is spelt apparently not appearenty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And editors decided to use their opinion pages and front pages as tools to alter public thinking&#8221;</p>
<p>You mean like everyone in the government does everyday?</p>
<p>&#8220;Eavesdropping? On foreigners who we suspected of being terrorists.&#8221;</p>
<p>We only suspect them of being terrorists many of them are innocent. We have imprisoned people we suspected of being terrorists. They were not proven to be and some are completely innocent.</p>
<p>&#8220;Heh, there YOU go again, disclosing shit that only the terrorists would know. What a sneaky way to do this. Scums.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow you are something. They didn&#8217;t give any details. And shit there are people out there who know about this stuff and they know the details but no one listens to them.</p>
<p>Well you need to be fired then. You’re irresponsible. </p>
<p>&#8220;You’re a mouthpiece to the Democrats and we’re sick of you putting us at risk. Keep it up. The NYT will have to change because we, the American people don’t take our lives lightly. We expect our media to be responsible and respectful of this. Appearenty you’re on a different page than we.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are only speaking for yourself not the American people, so don’t make it sound like everyone is backing you on this for I and my company mostly disagree with you.<br />
The NYT doesn&#8217;t have to change. They have freedom of press and as soon as you censor one you have to censor them all killing this freedom. If this happens the government will walk all over this country and all the McCarthy&#8217;s and corrupt officials will win. Bush is un-American because he doesn&#8217;t listen to the people. He changes the topic so many times to avoid the real issues at hand.<br />
Sure some of the things Bush has done have been good for this country but that isn’t what makes a good president. What makes a good president is all the bad things they do….or lack there of to be more precise.</p>
<p>The NYT and the LAT are just doing their part to insure that this country&#8217;s freedoms are held strong and to help educate the people.</p>
<p>P.S. not to nit pick but it is spelt apparently not appearenty.</p>
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		<title>By: Robby L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robby L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 22:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:oops: Purgery = Perjury</description>
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		<title>By: Robby L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robby L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 22:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly.  They haven&#039;t been able to pin down who did that, either.  It wasn&#039;t Scooter Libby because he&#039;s indicted on purgery.  Whoever leaked it needs to be held to account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly.  They haven&#8217;t been able to pin down who did that, either.  It wasn&#8217;t Scooter Libby because he&#8217;s indicted on purgery.  Whoever leaked it needs to be held to account.</p>
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