Comments on: Men do matter; but so do women

By: alen

alen — Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:18:56 +0000

Raven, I couldn’t care less if you liked me or not. You can insult me and revert to childish name calling all you like. Go ahead if it sooths your ego. But being called on your opinions is the risk you take in putting them on an open forum and allowing feedback.

Looks like you’ve got some more thinking to do if you don’t like it…

By: Raven

Raven — Fri, 19 Jan 2007 02:49:54 +0000

Alen get a life.

I DO like men. A lot. Real men, not whining wussbags.
Like you. And the author of the original post quoted here. The times have changed; women have more expectations and they should. They have choices. If she wants to stay at home, good on her. If she wants to work, good on her. If she wants to be a domestic supporter, good on her BUT she’s not going to be happy in the end, if she calls herself this. If her man calls her this as well is asking for trouble.

LOVE is not mentioned. Period. Because it’s not there; it’s not a requirement of the assart who wrote the original post.

It matters that men are thanked for all they do- and I think most women DO appreciate and thank their guys…but women rarely get that back.

So call me a feminist because I chose to call men on being wimps and for whining- traits I CANNOT stand.
Men who wish to live in times past AND who moan and complain about it are total complete boring turn offs who deserve it when their women CHEAT on them.

You talk too much BTW- another trait I cannot stand in men. Just shut up and be one.

By: alen

alen — Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:27:39 +0000

PS, “not my choice”;
“baggage” doesn’t only mean that there are financial responsibilities, but that there is a father in the picture (whether present or not) and that there are unresolved issues with rejection and with men in general. These typically exist in families with single mothers. These are a lot of things for someone “on the outside” to willingly choose to get into. Perhaps instead of calling men names like “selfish” and acknowledged and appreciated the sacrifices that a man would need to make in order to have a relationship with you; you’d have a little more luck.

By: alen

alen — Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:12:02 +0000

Sorry, but I think you are a feminist, Raven; even if you don’t realize it. You might want to think about that some more. It looks to me like you were looking for ways to make comments about men and women, and almost all of your comments on men except for your initial “I like men, really…” (paraphrased) were negative. You ranted on choices of words in his post without trying to understand.

Can’t someone “support” while still being a “partner”? I believe the answer MUST be that this is possible. In fact I’d argue that it’s the best kind of partnership; and that it has been a missing element in many modern marriages. It is not a sign of weakness as many might fear, but a sign of strength and compassion.

In terms of William Harley’s list; “LOVE” was not missing in the list. I haven’t read his book; but the list provided appears to be a breakdown of what men and women MEAN when they say LOVE. Look at the items again, and you’ll see.

I’m sorry you had a bad marriage. But I don’t see why you think you can label men as being threatened by your strength (a typical piece of feminist dogma) while claiming while claiming to like men and not being a feminist.

Regarding “the vote” in some comments above, I’ve recently come across an interesting article which may be some food for thought.

http://members.tripod.com/feministhate/id49.htm
Certainly looks like the guy did his homework; and it makes a lot of sense. I haven’t seen any rebuttals to this yet. Democracy is general is a relatively new concept after all.

By: not my choice

not my choice — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:00:22 +0000

Some woman are single not by choice. Some have tried every means of finding a companion, but the men are just not bitting. Men will say that it’s because “they’re not attractive” or if the woman has kids, “they have to much baggage” these ideals that men do lead some woman to be single, no matter how those women try to make themselves attractive (spending money practicaly on Every body modification technique or other. And even when the woman tries to keep her personal life away from her kid’s untill the right time is to introduce “IT” . I have been a mom for 7 years, and I have not gone on ONE date! AND NOT BY CHOICE!!!!! I have tried to date but I get both examples EVERY SINGLE TIME! I have NO high expections, and I’m very versitle with “attributes” that I would like in a man, and the most important, I am very independent and well to do. I DO NOT require ANY MAN to support me!!!!!! (this is usauly what men belive baggage is..that most single mom’s want to be taken care of..)so why have the men not bitten? my experience with men has to do with the super model ideals they want from a woman. And also with no kids because they either 1. are not planning to stay long… or 2. they begin to fill pressuered (which can be understood) or 3. men do not want to contend with kids for attention.. and finaly…4. they belive that the relationship the mother had with that child’s father could be “messy” and they do not want to deal with the emotions (if any ) that they think the mother’s are “lugging around”, they don’t want to be emotionaly intimate …esp. if they are not planning to staying around.. you all know the term..”seeking SHORT TERM relationships. In these ways men can be VERY selfish..in most casees anyways. Woman do want to feel intimante and sexy and loved most ofton over “taken care of” even if they are a single parent, they have primal needs just like men!!!!!!!!!

By: MisterPlow

MisterPlow — Mon, 08 Jan 2007 07:55:19 +0000

“The sort of men who feel threatened by the existence of powerful, educated, independent women are dangerous anachronisms. We’re better off without them.”

And what of the women who are apparently threatened by powerful, educated, independent men? Is there no hope them either?

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