A Penny Saved Now Will Cost Us Later
Posted by Raven on June 19th, 2007
Profound quote of the day, right here:
Low-skill immigration reduces prices of some consumer goods because it reduces the relative wages of the workers producing those goods, including the wages of millions of low-skill non-immigrants who compete with the low-skill immigrants. As the National Academy of Sciences put it, “Although wage declines are real losses to the affected [non-immigrant] workers, they are also the source of a national ‘gain’ from immigration.”[10] A national policy that reduces consumer prices by reducing the wages of the least skilled American workers is hardly a recipe for long-term social and political stability.
I’ll link this later in this post.
This is what Senator Kennedy thinks about the immigration overhaul legislation:
Kennedy warned that the nation needs to develop a better system or it risks creating a breeding ground for terrorists among illegal immigrants already here.
Britain, France and Germany have all failed to assimilate immigrants. “Look where the cells are in terms of al-Qaeda,” Kennedy said.
Hmm. Warped thinking here. To link al Qaeda terrorists with illegal immigrants in this context shows us the truly desperate lines of crap we are being fed by those who want this proposal to become law. Unbelievable. And almost stunning.
Then I read this ridiculous article, which explains how our elected representatives plan to screw the people over:
WASHINGTON (AP) – Only in the arcane world of the U.S. Senate could a quirky gambit known as a “clay pigeon” make the difference between passage of an important immigration measure and its death at the hands of opponents.
Democratic leaders hope the complex maneuver – which makes use of the Senate’s labyrinthine rules to insist on votes on amendments – will frustrate conservatives’ attempts to derail the embattled immigration bill, instead putting it on a fast track to passage next week.
Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said he would revive the bill to legalize as many as 12 million unlawful immigrants late this week. To do so, though, he needs backing from 60 senators, and a way to guarantee votes on a tentative list of 22 Republican and Democratic amendments whose consideration is seen as vital to satisfying key waverers.
The so-called clay pigeon is how he’s expected to do it, under a strategy that was still taking shape Monday.
Well it’s Tuesday and I haven’t heard too much about this from any other source.
The tactic gets its name from the target used in skeet shooting, which explodes into bits as it is hit. In the Senate, an amendment is the target, and any one senator can demand that it be divided into separate fragments to be voted on piecemeal.
Under the tentative plan, Reid as early as Friday would launch his target – an amendment encompassing all 22 proposals – and shoot it into its component pieces. The Senate would then vote on ending debate on the immigration measure, which would take 60 votes and limit discussion of the bill to 30 more hours. After that interval, all 22 amendments would have to be voted on, with little opportunity for foes to interfere.
Uh huh. Little interference equals a passed piece of legislation that would really ruin our country, our economy and the lives of many American workers.
Which brings me back to the first quote in this post. It’s about the economics of this…many people are trying to tell us that legalizing those who are now called illegals will improve our economy and keep prices low on the products we so love to purchase.
There are so many other costs we MUST consider. Saving a few pennies or dollars NOW will catch up with each and every one of us in the not to far off future.
While provisions of the Senate bill would delay illegal immigrants’ access to welfare for several years, over time nearly all amnesty recipients would be offered legal permanent residence and access to more than 60 federal means-tested welfare programs.
Specifically, Z visa holders would immediately be given Social Security numbers and would begin earning entitlement to Social Security and Medicare (which are not means-tested welfare programs). Some ten to thirteen years after enactment, amnesty recipients would begin to gain access to a wide variety of means-tested welfare programs, such as Temporary Assistance to Needy Families, public housing, and Food Stamps. The amnesty process under S.1348, and the different stages of the process at which amnesty recipients become eligible for different government benefits, are precisely described in “Amnesty Will Cost U.S. Taxpayers at Least $2.6 Trillion.”[2]
In other words, the soon to be legal illegals will collect social security for the years they have been here, not paying into the system. Medicare and Medicaid funded health care programs have always been available to these parasites, which is one reason I call them THAT name: They have not paid in ONE RED PENNY to the pool of funds which WE HAVE ALL PAID into. Illegal immigrants have been sucking money out of our public health care funds for years now…and they will continue to do so; the money and resources associated with these programs HAS NEVER been accounted for and never will be. We can expect to pay HUGE increases in taxes to cover these people.
And this (emphasis mine):
…It found that these low-skill immigrant households, on average, receive three dollars in benefits for every one dollar in taxes paid. Low-skill immigrant households (both legal and illegal) now comprise five percent of the U.S. population and impose a net cost of $89 billion per year on the U.S. taxpayer.
Is this what we want? Saving a little money right now on the stupid things we buy, like cans of Del Monte fruit and packages of lettuce is all well and good. But to think that the pennies saved on the cheap labor NOW will collectively end up costing this country trillions of dollars, and each of it’s citizens, perhaps tens of thousands of dollars over our lifetime makes me question how forward Americans can really think.
Is the cheap labor immigrants “offer” to the unscrupulous businesses WORTH this? Who is making the bucks here and who is losing? Are we stupid or what?








June 19th, 2007 at 5:37 pm
I’ve been having difficulty following this gambit, but apparently it is an unprecedented utilization of the rule on dividing an amendment, in the process completely perverting the purpose of this rule. The rule was intended to facilitate debate; the purpose here is to suppress debate. This appears to be an effort by the ranking Democrat and Republican leaders to cut off opponents at the knees.
This action of course would be the final perversion of parliamentary procedure on this bill that was introduced to the floor with no committee hearings and has been railroaded through by its sponsors. The tactics are far more characteristic of Russia or the Soviet Union than of a free legislature
However, now that this tactic has been exposed, the emperor’s new clothes of trading voter against cloture for the opportunity to offer new amendments has been exposed as a fraud. No senator who switches their vote to favor cloture has this facade to hide behind.
The nation is watching…