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Obama-Lenin Gaffe

Posted by Raven on July 24th, 2008 / ADJUST TEXT SIZE

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How eerie.


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What is going on here? Is the Obama campaign so stupid it cannot see how bad all this has become?



71 Responses to “Obama-Lenin Gaffe”

  1. Bigfoot Says:

    I see that Lenin’s flyer is an anti-war one. I see “peace” in English, “paz” in Spanish, “mir” in Russian (and Cyrillic letters) and “pokoi”, which is similar to Polish “pokój”. From the beginning, commies have preached “peace”, while rabidly desiring to subjugate you.

    Perhaps someday, our descendants will walk through Obama’s tomb and stare in amazement at his mummified body. (Gag!)

  2. Pirate's Cove Says:

    Aside: Lenin In Berlin…

    Did y’all know that Lenin was in Berlin today? Raven catches the 411
    ……

  3. William Teach Says:

    No, not stupid. Obama’s campaign is simply too elitist for us to understand. :???:

  4. ThinkingMeat · Shorter Raven Says:

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  5. Bunny Colvin Says:

    This website is repulsive. Hate much? :sad:

  6. Good Lt Says:

    >>This website is repulsive. Hate much?

    Awww…somebody’s a trifle sensitive about their messiah.

    How cute.

  7. Bigfoot Says:

    Hate much?

    To the charge of hating communism, I most assuredly plead guilty.

  8. Tennyson Hayes Says:

    I have some experience in matters of visual communication, brand image, etc. and I cannot overemphasize how deliberate this is on the part of the Obama campaign.

    No way they don’t know what they’re evoking here, no way it’s just some rogue out-of-touch elitists in the design dept. saying “hey that looks cool.” Many people - campaign officials, lawyers - review and approve such things before they’re released. It’s creepy that this is what Obama’s chosen and even creepier that Obama’s sycophantic supporters respond to it.

    Obama isn’t Lenin of course (or Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Kim, Mao) but he has clearly borrowed some pages from their propaganda books. He’s already redesigned a general national symbol (the Presidential seal) to make it about himself instead of the office it represents; the rest of his imagery is similarly self-centric.

    Excellent find on the Lenin poster, Raven. Obama’s campaign may not be aware of this specific image but the stylistic parallels are undeniable.

  9. Duncan Says:

    YAY! ThinkingMeatBrain paid us a visit. Traffic must be slowing down at his place. Like at 0 hits. :wink:

  10. Raven Says:

    Oh the thought of that makes me sick.

  11. Raven Says:

    Obama’s campaign is making some mistakes here…and it’ll cost them.

    He’s starting to look a lot like Jean Francious Kerrie now…fake, phoney and a fraud.

  12. Raven Says:

    HOW DARE anyone bash the mighty Messiah!!

  13. Raven Says:

    Tennyson I suspected this. A deliberate planned image…and it’s going too far in many people’s opinions. Obama might suffer because of this Hollywood style branding.

  14. Raven Says:

    BWAHAH Duncan? NO hits from TM site. Except one from Ohio- which is the meathead himself.

  15. Tennyson Hayes Says:

    Raven - Considering that branding is really all Obama’s got going for him, it would be great if it ultimately backfired on him.

    It’s funny that the same righteous leftists who proudly display copies of Naomi Klein’s No Logo and dismissively sneer at the peasants who succumb to the marketing pitches of eeeevil corporations are the ones who’ve fallen so completely for the form-over-substance Obama campaign.

    But then again logical consistency has never been the hallmark of the Left.

  16. dj Says:

    think what you want, but I’m catholic and i find people calling Obama the messiah kind of ignorant. I would like to think that people who share the Christian faith wouldn’t fuck with the name of our lord but i guess this still doesn’t stop non-Christians from using words they don’t understand.

  17. Duncan Says:

    Dj,
    I am a Christian. And I have referred to Obama as the Messiah several times, mostly tongue-in-cheek, because he has been treated in such a manner by so many in the left, who themselves have little use for religion, unless it has to do with the Religion of Al Gore and Co., etc. etc. I didn’t now that the word messiah was necessarily always tied to Jesus Christ, and therefore I would be “f-ck”‘ing with the name of our Lord by using it in such a way. Interesting.

  18. Bunny Colvin Says:

    Tenny, my b!tch. So you got “some experience in matters of visual communication”, do you? That visual communication called the words you typed in your posts have me ROTFLMAO. Your “analysis” concluding that the Obama campaign did this purposely is a big swing and a miss. Listen Chief, I’m a liberal and I admit the poster was bound to show up in the right wing wack blogosFEAR. But your whole paranoid ramble about the evil Obama intent is absolutely ridiculous, on the face of it. The Commies still aren’t a big seller out here in what we call the real world. Why on earth would Obama wan’t to invoke the image of Lenin? It might be an unintentional political gaffe on his part, but your theory that the campaign would want to draw parallels between Lenin and Obama is asinine.

    You need to get out of the house more, dude. When was the last time the sunlight hit your face? My guess is a long, long time ago. Easy on the whiskey there cowgirl. It makes you angry and illogical, as your posts have so clearly evidenced. Hang in there, Detective Tenny. No Logo might be a reach for you anyway, my friend. No sweat that you didn’t like it. The Pet Goat may be more your speed. It’s ok dude, it really is.

    I dismissively sneer at you because you are peasantlike. You are an irrational, unstable fool whom understands very little about the game. And most people don’t think like you. You’re a relic, my friend. The world is getting smaller. Hate just doesn’t have the same appeal to the electorate. Your McCarthyist propaganda might have gained some traction the last time you got laid, but it has lost most of its effectiveness, trust me.

    No one thinks Obama is a Communist except you fools. In November, you lose. B!tches

  19. Duncan Says:

    Hey Bunny! Welcome! Glad to have your perspective on things around here.

    Ofcourse, Tennyson did not claim that Obama was Lenin. In fact he said that Obama was not Lenin. But Tennyson did say that the “stylistic parallels are undeniable”. I’d have to agree. And those posters do not make Obama a communist.

    No, his political views, and those shared by an increasing number of Democrats, have more in common with Lenin and less with Jefferson, Washington, Madison, and Adams.

    And “hate just doesn’t have an appeal with the electorate”, unless said electorate likes to “sneer” at people because they are “peasantlike”, I am sure. Or hate doesn’t appeal with the electorate unless they voted for Gore and Kerry, or Nader, against the evil BushHalliburtonCheneyWarforOilCabal. No, hate has every place in an electorate apparently. Its just you don’t believe that there can be any large amounts of geniune dislike of Obama, because he is fresh, and articulate, and there Changey Hopetitude in abundance in his presence. Then there is nothing but love and adoration from the electorate… (yeeeccchh) :roll:

    And come this November, we’ll see who wins and who loses. Desperation is a stinky cologne bunny. You guys thought that you had 2004 in the bag also. And Barack Hussein Obama is in a statistical dead heat with McCain, in an election year where the Dems should be trouncing the Republicans. THat is not a good sign for the savior of the world. And BHO might indeed win. I just wouldn’t put any money on it…..

  20. tHOMAS jACKSON Says:

    Gee when a politician apes the philosophy and style of another should we be surprised if they share the same values?

    If the the Dalibama apes Lennin or Che is it because he hates the principles they represented or has embraced them?

    I wonder what all those progressives at the Politburo would say if McCain used the same style posters?

    The louder the moonbats bray the closer home you have struck.

  21. Jack Diederich Says:

    This isn’t a coincidence. The guy who does the Obama posters mostly does portraits of dictators (Lenin, Che, etc). His name is Shepard Farley and you can see a gallery of his stuff here or the brief writeup I did of him here.

  22. Raven Says:

    WOW thanks Jack…this kills many of the arguments I’ve been reading on various leftard blogs saying this IS A COINCIDENCE.

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  24. ice9 Says:

    because it’s slanty, he’s a commie? because it’s SLANTY?

    Because it says ‘peace’?

    Dopes.

    ice

  25. Duncan Says:

    Ice,

    I think it has more to do with the profile shot of the man, looking out to the horizon as if to grab hold of the future of his people, and take care of it for them… whether they want him to or not…

    Douche…

  26. Bunny Colvin Says:

    DunkTank,

    Some of us do look out to the horizon and contemplate the future. You, like most pubbers, only look to what is good for you today. And you fail to recognize the potential developments, be them good or bad, that constitute the future. You way of thinking is dated and illogical. You are out of touch and paranoid.

    And, most likely, a douche.

    WHERE ALL MY BITCHES AT??? TUNNY- WHAT ROCK ARE YOU HIDING UNDER, GIRLFRIEND? TOM JACKOFF- YOU ARE OF CLOSER INTELLIGENCE TO THE APE THAN ANY LIBERAL- YOU ARE A FOOLISH PARANOID HATER

  27. Duncan Says:

    Bunny,

    As always, a well thought out and articulated position. :lol: Do you come up with these play on words with all of our names. Clever. Yes. That is sarcasm. You are ignorant yourself by stating that we don’t look to the future. But unlike you and your “progressive” ilk, we don’t look back at failed ideologies like socialism and its more “scientific” brother, communism and call it “progress”.

    Screeching ad hominems and then claiming everyone is a hater. Tell me… are you a self-parody of the typical leftist… seriously..

  28. Bunny Colvin Says:

    DunkTank,

    I am just as much of a self-parody as the LoofahKing Bill O’ Reilly, if that answers your question.

    You don’t look to the future. You represent a segment of society that yearns for the past and is letting reality look at ya’ll square in the face, only to have you to look the other away.

    And there are PLENTY of haters on this site. Tommy Jackoff being among their most vile and uncreative members.

    TUNSOFLIES- WHERE YOU AT, MY BITCH???

  29. Raven Says:

    Bunny,
    Consider this your first and last warning from me. We welcome your comments but we don’t welcome your hate nor this baiting, childish immature “my bitch” talk. One more comment like this and I ban you from this site.

  30. Duncan Says:

    Ok Bunny.

    1. It is obvious why you are here. It is not to actually make a point, or add to the discussion. You sorta attempted to do that on your first comment on this post, but it was so full of adolescent drivel yet at the same schizo and pseudo-intellectual, that any real point got lost. If all you are left with is ad hominems and half-assed, half-cocked comments, then expect yourself to be banned from this site.

    2. And I think it would be better to say that we both look at the future, see the problems that are before us, and based upon our worldview, decide how we should proceed. You “yearn for the past” by embracing a leftist ideology wrapped in a progressive suit, as if somehow it is new and “hip”, yet is the same old recycled rag that most of the rest of the world is sloughing off however slowly. I look back at what our Founders created, a system where men had liberty and freedom, without Big Daddy government coming to the rescue at every boo-boo and treating its populace like toddlers needing the socialist tit to suck from, and I find that it has continued to work despite your ilks attempts to change it to fit your political desires.

    Allow you and your kind to push this country off the cliff and into the malaise and misery that your “progress” promises… no thanks… I think we’re doing much better without it…

  31. Raven Says:

    Well said Duncan. And Bunny I won’t ban you if you keep things on topic, even somewhat…and, as long as you stop this WHERE’S MY BITCH yappin. Grow up a little and watch the world become a better place. Stay immature and stay miserable.

    Your choice.

  32. Bunny Colvin Says:

    Ravenous-

    I been a watchin’ and I bin a growin’ up for quite some time now. And I ain’t seein’ no world become no better place. Cause of them damn Democrats, I’ll bet. How long is this going to take? Can McSame deliver all dat betterness that our savior George W. Bush has? Or are you a non-believer in our “compassionate Christian” fearless leader? I gots to know, sista. Are you with us, or are you with the terr’ists???

  33. Cao Says:

    I doubt that you’ve been growin’ up, you come from the same garbage pail as meatbrain.

    Only you think you’re a comedian along the lines of Billy Bobneck…aka Paul Day of Watertown Massachusetts.

  34. Bunny Colvin Says:

    Mao,

    You don’t even allow opposing viewpoints on your blog. You have no credibility with me. From here on out, I’d prefer that you simply stick to agreeing with other commenters rather than foolishly attempt to debate me. You ain’t on my level, sweetheart.

    PEACE

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  36. Bunny Colvin Says:

    I’m still laughing at you tauting your endorsement from Hugh Hewitt on your website. He’s a real class act. You’re a hack. [[[puke]]]

  37. Nevada Pundit Says:

    Well you have to admit, Obama brought this type of parody on himself. You set yourself to high and you have farther to fall.

  38. Bunny Colvin Says:

    One thing I will admit to, Nevada pudpuller, is that Reno is a toilet. I’m a Vegas guy.

    PEACE

  39. Ghost Writer Says:

    I recall an expression I heard as I was growing up. It was “Don’t let your alligator mouth overload your mockingbird ass”.

    Bunny, should I call you “Ali” or “Bird” for short while “Ass” would probably be much more appropriate don’t you think? Nobody is going to take you seriously because you act like a bull in a china shop and all you have is a great big arrogant ego that you exhibit in here like your compensating for something. Are you sure you aren’t just this short little man there Little Caeser?

    I’ll just tell you up front - I don’t like you worth a sh!t. I don’t like you because you continue to degrade people by slandering their Nam/Nic/ID, or whatever you want to call it, in an attempt to belittle them to drive your point home. You call “Navada Pundit” “Nevada pudpuller”. You call “Tennyson Hayes” “Tenny, my b!tch”, “Chief”, “Cowgirl” and “Detective Tenny”. You call “Duncan” “DunkTank”. You call “Raven” “Ravenous”. You call “Cao” “Mao”. This, in and of itself, shows your complete disdain and lack of any respect for those you are trying to convey your message. Additionally, you show the same level of respect for the Office of the Presidency. Just outta curiosity, how’s that working for ya?

    Perception is the key to how we rationalize our behavior. Your perception is that we are “right wing wack jobs”. Your perception is that you live in the “real world” and we don’t. “You need to get out of the house more, dude”. Here’s a clue for ya ~ we aren’t your dude! You continue on with “When was the last time the sun hit your face”, blah, blah, blah. Everything you’ve said in here that I’ve read is high on rhetoric and short on substance.

    You seem to have it all figured out don’t ya B!tch? You see, it’s not so appealing when it comes back to haunt you is it? You might want to pack up and move out of the house while you still know everything. You may want to pack up that alarm clock while you’re at it because you’re going to need it. Five o’clock comes mighty early for that job with your name on your shirt. Don’t forget to practice your lines “would you like fries with that?”. Or optionally, you may want to take a step back, look, listen, and learn, and come back when you’ve, well, grown up. If you want to present an opposing view point and want to be treated like an adult, here’s a novel idea ~ try acting like one. Unlike the rest of these people, this is my one and only message to you, and I’m not going to so much as dignify with a response any rebuttal you may have to offer.

    Have a nice day Bunny.

  40. Raven Says:

    GW, Bunny is an immature, attention seeking, tough-sounding, feeble minded liberal.

    Forgive her. She can’t help it.

  41. Sarah Bloch Says:

    This is nonsense.

    I thought the GOP wasn’t yet in full panic mode but if comparing Obama posters to Lenin poster is where you are with 100 days left to the election you are well within your rights to push that panic button. I expect full out no code word racial slurs against the Illinois Senator to begin in the next two weeks. All of this reminds me of a story I was told by a colleague this weekend:

    The way I see it there were two boxes the McCain campaign was sent by the RNC in the thick of the primary race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. One box was labeled “open immediately after Hillary wins the nomination” the other “open immediately after Barack Obama wins the nomination.”

    In the HRC box were DVDs of hours of Bill and Monica innuendos, sound bites from Kathleen Willey, Vince Foster’s home movies and a cube of index cards detailing what the 527s would do to beat the Clintons by painting Hillary as being another unacceptable liberal administration that would be doing something immoral while the country was going to Hell. I guess images of Huma Abedin would be in there too.

    The Obama box is the same size but much lighter. Inside is a blister pack with one pill in it and it is labeled simply, “Cyanide.” The instructions read, “Bite down hard and swallow. Regards, George W Bush.”

  42. Ghost Writer Says:

    I couldn’t agree with you more Sarah. What you said is absolute nonsense. Thanks for sharing it.

  43. Mamba1-0 Says:

    The funny thing about the “new left” is that they REALLY do believe that they are the true progressives - and that they are the one’s discovering socialism/communism/communitarianism(and, of course, fascism) for the first time; and that they can make it work. Isn’t one of the signs of insanity doing the same wrong thing over and over and expecting different results? It seems that that is what our “progressive” friends keep on doing.
    And I believe that the parallels between the communist posters and those of the obamassiah campaign are by no means accidental. They do, however, exhibit arrogance toward and great disdain for the American people. But hussein’s supporters don’t seem to be smart enough to catch on to that.

  44. Big Dog Says:

    Hi Raven, how are you babe? Pay no attention to bunny. He is the newest troll to infest Conservative blogs. He has been at my site talking about how he is smarter than everyone and how tough he is and so worldly. He sees it all while the rest of us are whack jobs who have hatred in our hearts. Bunny poses as an enlightened liberal here to save the day but in reality he is a mixed up troll who seeks attention by visiting our sites.

    Please be easy on him because he has a mental disorder. Liberalism does this to people. Please, don’t threaten to ban him or he will be sending you emails begging you not to. He will be like Obama talking to Ahmadinejad “Please Mahmood, don’t shoot nukes” “Please Rave, don’t ban me” is what is would sound like.

    And Sarah, the cyanide capsule in the Obama box was for the nation because voting for him would be national suicide. Now drink your Kool Aid dear.

  45. Big Dog Says:

    BTW, you can visit some of my recent posts to see the handy work of bunny. You will see that some of the sentences are nearly identical. He is fond of the Pet goat book remark and the “where are my bitches” rant. He is not very original…

    http://www.onebigdog.net

    If you comment, be easy on him. I don’t want to have to clean up troll poop….

  46. Nemesis12 Says:

    This is nonsense.

    No , it isnt.One glance at both of them and the similarities were striking, I thought one had been modelled on the other.

    Guess what, it had. Oops….

    So if I see it for what it is..why cant you?

    I thought the GOP wasn’t yet in full panic mode but if comparing Obama posters to Lenin poster is where you are with 100 days left to the election you are well within your rights to push that panic button.

    You mean aside from the fact Obama is a Leftist, a Muslim, a liar, a man who treats the military like dirt, who whiteweashes his past, who throws anyone who gets in his way under the bus, who does more flip flops than Kerry?

    I expect full out no code word racial slurs against the Illinois Senator to begin in the next two weeks. All of this reminds me of a story I was told by a colleague this weekend:

    Did a cop jump out of the bushes?

    In the HRC box were DVDs of hours of Bill and Monica innuendos, sound bites from Kathleen Willey, Vince Foster’s home movies and a cube of index cards detailing what the 527s would do to beat the Clintons by painting Hillary as being another unacceptable liberal administration that would be doing something immoral while the country was going to Hell. I guess images of Huma Abedin would be in there too.

    Did it include the home movies of Bill being impeached for lying to a grand jury? Oh meant to ask, how is the Peter Paul case going? When does Hillary start giving evidence into the numerous lies she has told over the case, and her acceptance of a lot of money she never declared?

    <blockquoteThe Obama box is the same size but much lighter. Inside is a blister pack with one pill in it and it is labeled simply, “Cyanide.” The instructions read, “Bite down hard and swallow. Regards, George W Bush.”

    That’s PRESIDENT Bush to you, libber, and quite frankly, if Obamaramalamadingdong is elected, it will be suicide…the military will go to hell and you will have an appeaser in the WH.

    President McCain…get used to it.

    Barack HUSSEIN Obama is unelectable

  47. Big Dog Says:

    Yep, they sure were raven. Nothing better than cold beer while watching trolls roast by the open fire….

  48. Ogre Says:

    I think it’s funny that all these trolls are in here complaining that Obama isn’t a communist because of the poster. Unfortunately, Obama IS a communist and a hate-filled racist — but not because of the poster. He was all those things and more long before the poster was ever created…

  49. Bunny Colvin Says:

    Casper- I’ll add your name to the list of my bitches. “Additionally, you show the same level of respect for the Office of the Presidency. Just outta curiosity, how’s that working for ya?” Well, it’ll be working just fine come January, when I again will have faith in my President. How’d the Clinton years “work out” for you? I’m sure you showed so much respect for the office of the presidency back then. What a hypocrite.

    BigDork- Hey buddy! It’s great to see you over here. “He sees it all while the rest of us are whack jobs who have hatred in our hearts.” This is true, not much more I can say. “Bunny poses as an enlightened liberal here to save the day but in reality he is a mixed up troll who seeks attention by visiting our sites.” False. I do not pose as an enlightened liberal, I am an enlightened liberal. And I visit your sites to keep up on my RNC talking points. I’m a man of the people, and I’d rather read the words of the unenlightened people than hear them from Karl the turdsucker Rove or Phil the porn king Gramm.

    Ravenous- you’ve posted my name. How 1984 of you! I wonder how many of your psychotic readers are looking me up and figuring out if they can afford the gas and tolls to come kill me! I’d put that # at 10-15. Following fearless leader Bush’s lead and putting my name out there, huh? Great work! And Connie can be a mans name too. Ever heard of Connie Mack? Of course not, you know nothing of political history or baseball.

    And for the record, I did email these folks and ask them politely not to ban me. I don’t believe in censorship and neither should they. These w(r)ong wing wack blogs provide me with plenty of laughs and, on a good day, one of you might say something which I don’t already know. I love it here. And over at The Dog and Pony Show. You guys just don’t like opposing viewpoints. It’s ok, neither does W! And look how successful his time in office has been!

    PEACE

  50. Nemesis12 Says:

    And for the record, I did email these folks and ask them politely not to ban me. I don’t believe in censorship and neither should they.

    Private blog. You have no rights here. So shut it.

    These w(r)ong wing wack blogs provide me with plenty of laughs and, on a good day, one of you might say something which I don’t already know.

    Your mother was a hamster?

    I love it here. And over at The Dog and Pony Show. You guys just don’t like opposing viewpoints.

    We love intelligent debate.When you going to give us some?

    It’s ok, neither does W! And look how successful his time in office has been!

    Al Qaeda smashed, their commanders dead or captured, their soldiers dead or in prison, Saddam Hussein dead, his homicidal sons dead,Iraq has its freedom and is now a happy growing nation, no more attacks since 9/11, better security.

    How’d the Clinton years “work out” for you? I’m sure you showed so much respect for the office of the presidency back then. What a hypocrite.

    You mean the disbarred, disgraced, impeached ex President who cant keep it in his pants? Who was described by President Ford as a sex maniac?

    The one that fired cruise missiles at a camel tent in order to deflect the attention away from his numerous lies and machinations?

    The one that ordered the retreat from Somalia that proved that he didn’t have the guts for a stand up fight, and paved the way for 9/11?

    The one who was offered Bin Laden on a plate and said no?

    That Bill Clinton?

    Yeah, lots to respect.

  51. Big Dog Says:

    No one cares what you believe in Hamster because these blogs are paid for by the people who run them. We pay the bandwidth so we get to say how it is used. Pretty soon you will be just another loser troll with 4 visitors a day and banned from every right wing blog on the net. Keep it up but don’t say I did not warn you.

    For the record, I was respectful of the office of the presidency when Clinton was in office. If Obama makes it in I believe I will take a page out of the idiot left’s playbook and call the Chimpy Obama HusseinHitler. I will certainly be able to write for at least four years because the guy is so inexperienced he could not lead a group of people out of a burning building.

    I think Bunny calls names because he suffers from small penis syndrome. Since he is a retard no one wants to talk to him so he calls names to entice people to respond.

  52. Big Dog Says:

    Ravenous- you’ve posted my name. How 1984 of you! I wonder how many of your psychotic readers are looking me up and figuring out if they can afford the gas and tolls to come kill me! I’d put that # at 10-15. Following fearless leader Bush’s lead and putting my name out there, huh? Great work! And Connie can be a mans name too. Ever heard of Connie Mack? Of course not, you know nothing of political history or baseball.

    Not only could we afford the tolls or airfare to come after you bur we could just pay someone else to do it for us, maybe an illegal. But the fact of the matter is, the left wing moonbats are the ones who make the threats and try to intimidate (see Obambi and what was that college professor’s name). To us you are not worth the time or effort it would take to come get you and you are certainly not worth the cost of the ammo. We believe that you have a right to life and that we should not take that away. What do you think we are, pro abortion or something?

    Though I have to admit, people like you help me to understand why some animals eat their young and to understand that maybe your mother should have aborted. If your mommy was doing a Lewinsky that night instead, we would all be better off.