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		<title>By: civil truth</title>
		<link>http://andrightlyso.com/2008/11/22/teh-nutroots-aint-happy-with-obama-say-it-aint-so/comment-page-1/#comment-75271</link>
		<dc:creator>civil truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 04:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;dj&lt;/em&gt;, I think you get piled on here because you make such a good straight man, with your nit-picking (missing the larger point in the process) and taking yourself too seriously. Check out the &lt;em&gt;Screwtape Letters&lt;/em&gt;.

To the others here, I think your glee is premature. I think Obama&#039;s sympathies are far-left, but he&#039;s also sensible enough to know that he doesn&#039;t have the knowledge or executive experience to enact his revolutionary programs - YET. As has been the case throughout his meteoric career, he is totally dependent on others to clear out opposition from his path (Just review his Illinois political career culminating in his Senate race.) And he had the MSM doing much of the heavy lifting in this election (coupled with the inability of John McCain to run a coherent campaign). So the pattern holds fast. 

And as for the post-election, the Clintons are the pros when it comes to cleaning out the opposition. Their serious miscalculation of Obama in the primary plus a few key bad breaks was an aberration that is not going to be repeated. So from Obama&#039;s perspective, why not call in the pros, just as you&#039;d call in professional exterminators to clean out insect infestations.

So I don&#039;t see Obama betraying the netroots; he&#039;s just more strategically-minded than them. This guy is highly intelligent and has inculcated himself in the writings of master revolutionary strategists such as Alinsky and Wright. Just look at how he&#039;s handling the Senate, taking Hillary out of the Senate and otherwise building loyalty debts (&lt;em&gt;e.g.&lt;/em&gt; Lieberman). Thus, underestimate him at your peril.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>dj</em>, I think you get piled on here because you make such a good straight man, with your nit-picking (missing the larger point in the process) and taking yourself too seriously. Check out the <em>Screwtape Letters</em>.</p>
<p>To the others here, I think your glee is premature. I think Obama&#8217;s sympathies are far-left, but he&#8217;s also sensible enough to know that he doesn&#8217;t have the knowledge or executive experience to enact his revolutionary programs &#8211; YET. As has been the case throughout his meteoric career, he is totally dependent on others to clear out opposition from his path (Just review his Illinois political career culminating in his Senate race.) And he had the MSM doing much of the heavy lifting in this election (coupled with the inability of John McCain to run a coherent campaign). So the pattern holds fast. </p>
<p>And as for the post-election, the Clintons are the pros when it comes to cleaning out the opposition. Their serious miscalculation of Obama in the primary plus a few key bad breaks was an aberration that is not going to be repeated. So from Obama&#8217;s perspective, why not call in the pros, just as you&#8217;d call in professional exterminators to clean out insect infestations.</p>
<p>So I don&#8217;t see Obama betraying the netroots; he&#8217;s just more strategically-minded than them. This guy is highly intelligent and has inculcated himself in the writings of master revolutionary strategists such as Alinsky and Wright. Just look at how he&#8217;s handling the Senate, taking Hillary out of the Senate and otherwise building loyalty debts (<em>e.g.</em> Lieberman). Thus, underestimate him at your peril.</p>
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		<title>By: dj</title>
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		<dc:creator>dj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raven,

How does it not make sense?  the article is about people who are upset that they over-estimated the representation of a democratic congress (you didn&#039;t read the article either, did you.... ).  I make fun of people for not knowing their own government.  You swear.  I make fun of you and your on-line degree. You sugar-coat your swearing.  I&#039;m left befuddled because at no point you explain to me what your talking about.  So far all i get from you is a big bowl of sugar-coated f-bombs and threats of censorship if I don&#039;t eat it.

Its like you want to be queen of teh interntz.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raven,</p>
<p>How does it not make sense?  the article is about people who are upset that they over-estimated the representation of a democratic congress (you didn&#8217;t read the article either, did you&#8230;. ).  I make fun of people for not knowing their own government.  You swear.  I make fun of you and your on-line degree. You sugar-coat your swearing.  I&#8217;m left befuddled because at no point you explain to me what your talking about.  So far all i get from you is a big bowl of sugar-coated f-bombs and threats of censorship if I don&#8217;t eat it.</p>
<p>Its like you want to be queen of teh interntz&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 20:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dj,

You&#039;re a dumb duck and you keep on proving it every time you drop a comment out of your ass. This latest one from you makes absolutely no sense nor does it keep with the topic at hand here.

I&#039;m moderating your poops now, Mr PoopdenoPoops. Smarten up kid or risk being alienated by your own stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dj,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a dumb duck and you keep on proving it every time you drop a comment out of your ass. This latest one from you makes absolutely no sense nor does it keep with the topic at hand here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m moderating your poops now, Mr PoopdenoPoops. Smarten up kid or risk being alienated by your own stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: dj</title>
		<link>http://andrightlyso.com/2008/11/22/teh-nutroots-aint-happy-with-obama-say-it-aint-so/comment-page-1/#comment-75264</link>
		<dc:creator>dj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raven,

What did I miss?  People are upset that they over-estimated the representation of a democratic congress.  At least when I accuse people of something I give a reason, not just swears.  

you forgot a &quot;D&quot; at the end &quot;ASS-U-ME&quot;, or is that how they spell it in teh New Hampshire On-line Med-tech Training.  Quick we need 30cc&#039;s of bad humor stat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raven,</p>
<p>What did I miss?  People are upset that they over-estimated the representation of a democratic congress.  At least when I accuse people of something I give a reason, not just swears.  </p>
<p>you forgot a &#8220;D&#8221; at the end &#8220;ASS-U-ME&#8221;, or is that how they spell it in teh New Hampshire On-line Med-tech Training.  Quick we need 30cc&#8217;s of bad humor stat!</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kennedy&#039;s speech:
&lt;blockquote&gt; Acting, therefore, in the defense of our own security and of the entire Western Hemisphere, and under the authority entrusted to me by the Constitution as endorsed by the Resolution of the Congress, I have directed that the following initial steps be taken immediately:

First: To halt this offensive buildup a strict quarantine on all offensive military equipment under shipment to Cuba is being initiated. All ships of any kind bound for Cuba from whatever nation or port will, if found to contain cargoes of offensive weapons, be turned back. This quarantine will be extended, if needed, to other types of cargo and carriers. We are not at this time, however, denying the necessities of life as the Soviets attempted to do in their Berlin blockade of 1948.

Second: I have directed the continued and increased close surveillance of Cuba and its military buildup. The foreign ministers of the OAS [Organization of American States], in their communiqué&#039; of October 6, rejected secrecy on such matters in this hemisphere. Should these offensive military preparations continue, thus increasing the threat to the hemisphere, further action will be justified. I have directed the Armed Forces to prepare for any eventualities; and I trust that in the interest of both the Cuban people and the Soviet technicians at the sites, the hazards to all concerned of continuing this threat will be recognized.

Third: It shall be the policy of this nation to regard any nuclear missile launched from Cuba against any nation in the Western Hemisphere as an attack by the Soviet Union on the United States, requiring a full retaliatory response upon the Soviet Union.

Fourth: As a necessary military precaution, I have reinforced our base at Guantanamo, evacuated today the dependents of our personnel there, and ordered additional military units to be on a standby alert basis.

Fifth: We are calling tonight for an immediate meeting of the Organ[ization] of Consultation under the Organization of American States, to consider this threat to hemispheric security and to invoke articles 6 and 8 of the Rio Treaty in support of all necessary action. The United Nations Charter allows for regional security arrangements, and the nations of this hemisphere decided long ago against the military presence of outside powers. Our other allies around the world have also been alerted.

Sixth: Under the Charter of the United Nations, we are asking tonight that an emergency meeting of the Security Council be convoked without delay to take action against this latest Soviet threat to world peace. Our resolution will call for the prompt dismantling and withdrawal of all offensive weapons in Cuba, under the supervision of U.N. observers, before the quarantine can be lifted.

  Seventh and finally: I call upon Chairman Khrushchev to halt and eliminate this clandestine, reckless, and provocative threat to world peace and to stable relations between our two nations. I call upon him further to abandon this course of world domination, and to join in an historic effort to end the perilous arms race and to transform the history of man. He has an opportunity now to move the world back from the abyss of destruction by returning to his government&#039;s own words that it had no need to station missiles outside its own territory, and withdrawing these weapons from Cuba by refraining from any action which will widen or deepen the present crisis, and then by participating in a search for peaceful and permanent solutions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Anyone see Obama saying such words?? BWAHAH NO WAY. Never. Obama would just as soon allow the threats to exist and try to cookie-tea-them to be our friends...(and sell the US&#039;s soul as they stab him and us in the back) than go to war with ANY enemy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kennedy&#8217;s speech:</p>
<blockquote><p> Acting, therefore, in the defense of our own security and of the entire Western Hemisphere, and under the authority entrusted to me by the Constitution as endorsed by the Resolution of the Congress, I have directed that the following initial steps be taken immediately:</p>
<p>First: To halt this offensive buildup a strict quarantine on all offensive military equipment under shipment to Cuba is being initiated. All ships of any kind bound for Cuba from whatever nation or port will, if found to contain cargoes of offensive weapons, be turned back. This quarantine will be extended, if needed, to other types of cargo and carriers. We are not at this time, however, denying the necessities of life as the Soviets attempted to do in their Berlin blockade of 1948.</p>
<p>Second: I have directed the continued and increased close surveillance of Cuba and its military buildup. The foreign ministers of the OAS [Organization of American States], in their communiqué&#8217; of October 6, rejected secrecy on such matters in this hemisphere. Should these offensive military preparations continue, thus increasing the threat to the hemisphere, further action will be justified. I have directed the Armed Forces to prepare for any eventualities; and I trust that in the interest of both the Cuban people and the Soviet technicians at the sites, the hazards to all concerned of continuing this threat will be recognized.</p>
<p>Third: It shall be the policy of this nation to regard any nuclear missile launched from Cuba against any nation in the Western Hemisphere as an attack by the Soviet Union on the United States, requiring a full retaliatory response upon the Soviet Union.</p>
<p>Fourth: As a necessary military precaution, I have reinforced our base at Guantanamo, evacuated today the dependents of our personnel there, and ordered additional military units to be on a standby alert basis.</p>
<p>Fifth: We are calling tonight for an immediate meeting of the Organ[ization] of Consultation under the Organization of American States, to consider this threat to hemispheric security and to invoke articles 6 and 8 of the Rio Treaty in support of all necessary action. The United Nations Charter allows for regional security arrangements, and the nations of this hemisphere decided long ago against the military presence of outside powers. Our other allies around the world have also been alerted.</p>
<p>Sixth: Under the Charter of the United Nations, we are asking tonight that an emergency meeting of the Security Council be convoked without delay to take action against this latest Soviet threat to world peace. Our resolution will call for the prompt dismantling and withdrawal of all offensive weapons in Cuba, under the supervision of U.N. observers, before the quarantine can be lifted.</p>
<p>  Seventh and finally: I call upon Chairman Khrushchev to halt and eliminate this clandestine, reckless, and provocative threat to world peace and to stable relations between our two nations. I call upon him further to abandon this course of world domination, and to join in an historic effort to end the perilous arms race and to transform the history of man. He has an opportunity now to move the world back from the abyss of destruction by returning to his government&#8217;s own words that it had no need to station missiles outside its own territory, and withdrawing these weapons from Cuba by refraining from any action which will widen or deepen the present crisis, and then by participating in a search for peaceful and permanent solutions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Anyone see Obama saying such words?? BWAHAH NO WAY. Never. Obama would just as soon allow the threats to exist and try to cookie-tea-them to be our friends&#8230;(and sell the US&#8217;s soul as they stab him and us in the back) than go to war with ANY enemy.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dj, once again shows us his education level or lack of...he simply didn&#039;t bother to read it all as usual and ASSUMED certain things.

Hasn&#039;t he learned what that means? ASS-U-ME??? Guess not. 

And I  do bet he attended one of the typical public schools where education is an afterthought, where indoctrination into liberal mindset is the first and foremost goal. Where the Teachers Unions, and therefore the Teachers, prefer  NOT to be held accountable for the work they do. And instead prefer to shift blame on others, other factors and the like.

I could go on and on but little dj wouldn&#039;t understand. He has yet to really grasp most subjects important to being a productive citizen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dj, once again shows us his education level or lack of&#8230;he simply didn&#8217;t bother to read it all as usual and ASSUMED certain things.</p>
<p>Hasn&#8217;t he learned what that means? ASS-U-ME??? Guess not. </p>
<p>And I  do bet he attended one of the typical public schools where education is an afterthought, where indoctrination into liberal mindset is the first and foremost goal. Where the Teachers Unions, and therefore the Teachers, prefer  NOT to be held accountable for the work they do. And instead prefer to shift blame on others, other factors and the like.</p>
<p>I could go on and on but little dj wouldn&#8217;t understand. He has yet to really grasp most subjects important to being a productive citizen.</p>
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		<title>By: Bigfoot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bigfoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;However, the MSM, Time, Newsweek, they’ve painted Obama as a Lincoln/FDR/JFK&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I saw the most recent cover of &lt;i&gt;Time&lt;/i&gt;, with Obama posed as FDR, complete with cigarette holder.  It&#039;s accurate in one respect.  Obama does indeed smoke.

Of these three, I&#039;d say that Obama is most like JFK, who took the office in his 40&#039;s, just after serving in the Senate, whose political experience is legislative rather than executive.  What I fear is that our enemies will see Obama as weak in the same way the Khrushchev saw Kennedy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>However, the MSM, Time, Newsweek, they’ve painted Obama as a Lincoln/FDR/JFK</p></blockquote>
<p>I saw the most recent cover of <i>Time</i>, with Obama posed as FDR, complete with cigarette holder.  It&#8217;s accurate in one respect.  Obama does indeed smoke.</p>
<p>Of these three, I&#8217;d say that Obama is most like JFK, who took the office in his 40&#8217;s, just after serving in the Senate, whose political experience is legislative rather than executive.  What I fear is that our enemies will see Obama as weak in the same way the Khrushchev saw Kennedy.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 05:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dj,

  I am sure you intended to slight us somehow, though I don&#039;t know anybody here that said anything that could give the impression that we thought a president-elect had any true power. However, the MSM, Time, Newsweek, they&#039;ve painted Obama as a Lincoln/FDR/JFK, and HE HASN&#039;T EVEN BEEN INAUGURATED. Perhaps you could give some of your rapier wit to them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dj,</p>
<p>  I am sure you intended to slight us somehow, though I don&#8217;t know anybody here that said anything that could give the impression that we thought a president-elect had any true power. However, the MSM, Time, Newsweek, they&#8217;ve painted Obama as a Lincoln/FDR/JFK, and HE HASN&#8217;T EVEN BEEN INAUGURATED. Perhaps you could give some of your rapier wit to them?</p>
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