Comments on: Why should women give up their orgasms for a man? http://andrightlyso.com/2009/01/03/why-should-women-give-up-their-orgasms-for-a-man/ Live Free Or Die Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:22:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Raven http://andrightlyso.com/2009/01/03/why-should-women-give-up-their-orgasms-for-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-76497 Raven Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:22:12 +0000 http://andrightlyso.com/?p=7837#comment-76497 Oh and Dave puleeze stop it with the argument that I must be liberal to hold the opinions I hold. Just because a woman likes, wants and expects orgasms doesn't make her liberal. It makes her wise. Yes- sorry about that buddy. It means a guy will have to work hard to please me...but damn what he gets back is more than worth it. :fu: Oh and Dave puleeze stop it with the argument that I must be liberal to hold the opinions I hold.

Just because a woman likes, wants and expects orgasms doesn’t make her liberal. It makes her wise. Yes- sorry about that buddy. It means a guy will have to work hard to please me…but damn what he gets back is more than worth it.

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]]> By: Raven http://andrightlyso.com/2009/01/03/why-should-women-give-up-their-orgasms-for-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-76496 Raven Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:17:02 +0000 http://andrightlyso.com/?p=7837#comment-76496 Well Dave, if this is all it takes for you to be satisfied, so be it. A woman who puts out, lays there and moves is good for some. Way back in my life, when I was a high paid child prostitute, these were the words of advice we young girls were given: Move and Moan. Men love it and it makes them <em>feel</em> like MEN. (And since they're paying for it, we best fake it to the max!) Whatever. The point I was trying to make in my post was my opinion that Prager is encouraging women to indeed have sex, with their husbands, no matter what their mood. A loving and good wife will put out with no regard for her own needs and wants- and this all sounds good. Eventually, she gets BORED though. She no longer has any interest in <em>in just lying there, moving</em> faking it up to the max just so it can be said, she's a WISE WOMAN. Newsflash:::: Women will get bored. Sex will become a duty. An obligation. An act. The marriage will enter a period that many call a RUT. <em>This is a problem.</em> Many women will seek sexual companionship elsewhere. They get cold and unloving towards the man they are married to. They start rejecting any attempts to move sex into another realm. Hate to say it, but once a woman becomes bored with her husband, it will take one hell of a lot of hard work on his part, to change that. It takes a special man to fix it all- and one who is willing to dedicate much. In exchange though, he will get much in return. Sexually and otherwise. Prager is encouraging women to stop being selfish (with wanting/expecting their own orgasms); he is blaming another generation for all this (he needs to get with the times and stop living in the distant past); he is promoting the groundwork that leads to broken marriages. His advice may have been relevant 20 or 30 or 40 or 50 yrs ago- but not now. Women want their orgasms. If their guy isn't willing to BRING THAT MOOD UP by going down on her, he deserves what he gets. As I said, I believe an aroused woman is much preferred than a duty driven woman. Well Dave, if this is all it takes for you to be satisfied, so be it. A woman who puts out, lays there and moves is good for some. Way back in my life, when I was a high paid child prostitute, these were the words of advice we young girls were given: Move and Moan. Men love it and it makes them feel like MEN. (And since they’re paying for it, we best fake it to the max!)

Whatever. The point I was trying to make in my post was my opinion that Prager is encouraging women to indeed have sex, with their husbands, no matter what their mood. A loving and good wife will put out with no regard for her own needs and wants- and this all sounds good. Eventually, she gets BORED though. She no longer has any interest in in just lying there, moving faking it up to the max just so it can be said, she’s a WISE WOMAN.

Newsflash::::
Women will get bored. Sex will become a duty. An obligation. An act. The marriage will enter a period that many call a RUT. This is a problem. Many women will seek sexual companionship elsewhere. They get cold and unloving towards the man they are married to. They start rejecting any attempts to move sex into another realm. Hate to say it, but once a woman becomes bored with her husband, it will take one hell of a lot of hard work on his part, to change that. It takes a special man to fix it all- and one who is willing to dedicate much. In exchange though, he will get much in return. Sexually and otherwise.

Prager is encouraging women to stop being selfish (with wanting/expecting their own orgasms); he is blaming another generation for all this (he needs to get with the times and stop living in the distant past); he is promoting the groundwork that leads to broken marriages. His advice may have been relevant 20 or 30 or 40 or 50 yrs ago- but not now.

Women want their orgasms. If their guy isn’t willing to BRING THAT MOOD UP by going down on her, he deserves what he gets. As I said, I believe an aroused woman is much preferred than a duty driven woman.

]]> By: Dave M http://andrightlyso.com/2009/01/03/why-should-women-give-up-their-orgasms-for-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-76495 Dave M Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:57:05 +0000 http://andrightlyso.com/?p=7837#comment-76495 RE: Moving. I am almost POSITIVE that for at least some women, rubbing their crotch up against someone who loves them does SOMETHING for them. If necrophillia role play works better for you, that is great (not sarcasm). Different stuff feels good to different people. No offence, but women are fucking retards with no natural capacity for empathy at all, so they tend to assume that everyone is exactly the same. If they need to get choked to have an orgasm, then all of the non-choking people are anti-orgasm, there's no possiblity of people getting to orgasm in different ways. I'm afraid that this last paragraph might sound personal, hostile etc, but you DID just do the exact same thing to me that you did in the original post. I said that the woman ought to put in some effort as well as the man, and you said that the man has to put in some effort (sorry), as if I'd said that the man SHOULD NOT have to put any effort in. Is this what it's come to, I say that maybe when two people have sex with each other, they should BOTH try moving a little, and now I'M trying to steal the orgasms from your magic bag too? IMO, practically the only good that comes from having comments on a blog is that people can let you know when, in trying to come up with something to say about everything, we occassionally, perhaps inevitably (given Man's fallen nature) begin to pick up certain Democrat-like habits of thought. RE: Moving. I am almost POSITIVE that for at least some women, rubbing their crotch up against someone who loves them does SOMETHING for them. If necrophillia role play works better for you, that is great (not sarcasm). Different stuff feels good to different people. No offence, but women are fucking retards with no natural capacity for empathy at all, so they tend to assume that everyone is exactly the same. If they need to get choked to have an orgasm, then all of the non-choking people are anti-orgasm, there’s no possiblity of people getting to orgasm in different ways. I’m afraid that this last paragraph might sound personal, hostile etc, but you DID just do the exact same thing to me that you did in the original post. I said that the woman ought to put in some effort as well as the man, and you said that the man has to put in some effort (sorry), as if I’d said that the man SHOULD NOT have to put any effort in. Is this what it’s come to, I say that maybe when two people have sex with each other, they should BOTH try moving a little, and now I’M trying to steal the orgasms from your magic bag too?

IMO, practically the only good that comes from having comments on a blog is that people can let you know when, in trying to come up with something to say about everything, we occassionally, perhaps inevitably (given Man’s fallen nature) begin to pick up certain Democrat-like habits of thought.

]]> By: Dave M http://andrightlyso.com/2009/01/03/why-should-women-give-up-their-orgasms-for-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-76494 Dave M Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:56:38 +0000 http://andrightlyso.com/?p=7837#comment-76494 Primarily, I'm talking about your objections to things that Prager did NOT say. The title of your post, for example, is a straw man which implies that Prager said "women should give up their orgasms", when what he said is more accurately summarized as "women should have sex with thier husbads". You might be able to make a good case that temporarily witholding sex is an indispensible tool in the effort to improve one's sex life and have more orgasms later on, in which case, in a way, if someone threw that tool away, they'd be "giving up their orgasms", but you have not made that case, you just seem to be taking it as a given that "you should consider putting out even if you aren't actually super-horny RIGHT NOW" = "You shouln't have orgasms". I am not disagreeing with your opinions or preferences about sex, I am objecting to your misrepresentation of the intentions behind another person's statements. :bow: Hail Goldstein :bow: My comment seems a bit spammy, so I'm going to try breaking it up. Primarily, I’m talking about your objections to things that Prager did NOT say. The title of your post, for example, is a straw man which implies that Prager said “women should give up their orgasms”, when what he said is more accurately summarized as “women should have sex with thier husbads”. You might be able to make a good case that temporarily witholding sex is an indispensible tool in the effort to improve one’s sex life and have more orgasms later on, in which case, in a way, if someone threw that tool away, they’d be “giving up their orgasms”, but you have not made that case, you just seem to be taking it as a given that “you should consider putting out even if you aren’t actually super-horny RIGHT NOW” = “You shouln’t have orgasms”. I am not disagreeing with your opinions or preferences about sex, I am objecting to your misrepresentation of the intentions behind another person’s statements.
:bow: Hail Goldstein :bow:

My comment seems a bit spammy, so I’m going to try breaking it up.

]]> By: connectingus http://andrightlyso.com/2009/01/03/why-should-women-give-up-their-orgasms-for-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-76491 connectingus Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:33:46 +0000 http://andrightlyso.com/?p=7837#comment-76491 Michael started this off well. I think if we all owrk together for the betterment of the sex we have, everyone will enjoy it more because everyone will get what they are looking for. A woman needs to talk to her man about it in the right way and vice versa. Make it good for both parties and all the BS goes away. What happened to works and plays well with others being part of a relationship - it's kindergarten level. Michael started this off well. I think if we all owrk together for the betterment of the sex we have, everyone will enjoy it more because everyone will get what they are looking for. A woman needs to talk to her man about it in the right way and vice versa. Make it good for both parties and all the BS goes away. What happened to works and plays well with others being part of a relationship – it’s kindergarten level.

]]> By: Raven http://andrightlyso.com/2009/01/03/why-should-women-give-up-their-orgasms-for-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-76482 Raven Mon, 05 Jan 2009 10:03:28 +0000 http://andrightlyso.com/?p=7837#comment-76482 Dave, You're talking about that rut a couple get into. I mentioned it. It can become a vicious cycle. How to fix it? How does a man learn when he's never given the opportunity? There's books and videos (not porn)and ofcourse, magazines. I also mentioned that quickies have a time and place-- and almost always do little for the woman. And for your info, when a woman MOVES it does not do much for her; in fact it does nothing. So the argument of lying there, moving is totally void. It's not that easy dude. Like it or not, the guy has to do some work if he wants his lady to be satisfied. Dave,
You’re talking about that rut a couple get into. I mentioned it. It can become a vicious cycle. How to fix it? How does a man learn when he’s never given the opportunity? There’s books and videos (not porn)and ofcourse, magazines.

I also mentioned that quickies have a time and place– and almost always do little for the woman.

And for your info, when a woman MOVES it does not do much for her; in fact it does nothing. So the argument of lying there, moving is totally void. It’s not that easy dude. Like it or not, the guy has to do some work if he wants his lady to be satisfied.

]]> By: Dave M http://andrightlyso.com/2009/01/03/why-should-women-give-up-their-orgasms-for-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-76480 Dave M Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:57:50 +0000 http://andrightlyso.com/?p=7837#comment-76480 To what he said -in your mind-, you say bullfuckingshit. What he wrote in the column is a different thing. You're doing that "in other words..." thing that... difficult people do so often. Like "you should be nice to people" "So what you're saying is, I should eat shit". Guys who put ZERO effort into sex aren't really that common. Maybe 10% of bad sex is caused by that. 40% is caused by the woman thinking her sole contribution is to lie there passively judging the man's performance like it would be undignified to move a little, the other %50 is caused by the guy just not getting any freaking practice because whenever he says that it would be appropriate to have sex with your spouse fairly often, somehow she hears "Rape is cool" or "I'm trying to STEAL THE ORGASMS FROM YOUR MAGIC BAG". To what he said -in your mind-, you say bullfuckingshit. What he wrote in the column is a different thing. You’re doing that “in other words…” thing that… difficult people do so often. Like “you should be nice to people” “So what you’re saying is, I should eat shit”.

Guys who put ZERO effort into sex aren’t really that common. Maybe 10% of bad sex is caused by that. 40% is caused by the woman thinking her sole contribution is to lie there passively judging the man’s performance like it would be undignified to move a little, the other %50 is caused by the guy just not getting any freaking practice because whenever he says that it would be appropriate to have sex with your spouse fairly often, somehow she hears “Rape is cool” or “I’m trying to STEAL THE ORGASMS FROM YOUR MAGIC BAG”.

]]> By: Raven http://andrightlyso.com/2009/01/03/why-should-women-give-up-their-orgasms-for-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-75646 Raven Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:14:31 +0000 http://andrightlyso.com/?p=7837#comment-75646 Duncan needs some lessons. Heh. Where to begin??? Duncan needs some lessons. Heh. Where to begin???

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