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		<title>By: civil truth</title>
		<link>http://andrightlyso.com/2009/02/22/distinctions-between-cultural-and-religious-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-77047</link>
		<dc:creator>civil truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really am becoming convinced that the way to go is not to focus first on the religion but on calling out the behavior. And then to call out those who would defend the indefensible. And if the defense is on the basis of religion (i.e. Islam) - THEN I go after a religion that would defend that behavior. That way, it is the apologists who are condemning themselves and staining their religion by their own words and actions.

And maybe, just maybe, the total cognitive dissonance here of a public voice of Muslim moderation beheading his wife is finally forcing some Muslim apologists to decide that they&#039;re fed up with trying to defend the indefensible.

Reflexes are hard to change, but if we keep calling out the behavior, perhaps more of those Muslims and Muslim leaders who honestly want to practice their religion while abiding by the rules everyone else has to abide by will find their voices and speak out clearly.

The only way things are going to change is to stand up to the bullies. Let&#039;s keep up the pressure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really am becoming convinced that the way to go is not to focus first on the religion but on calling out the behavior. And then to call out those who would defend the indefensible. And if the defense is on the basis of religion (i.e. Islam) &#8211; THEN I go after a religion that would defend that behavior. That way, it is the apologists who are condemning themselves and staining their religion by their own words and actions.</p>
<p>And maybe, just maybe, the total cognitive dissonance here of a public voice of Muslim moderation beheading his wife is finally forcing some Muslim apologists to decide that they&#8217;re fed up with trying to defend the indefensible.</p>
<p>Reflexes are hard to change, but if we keep calling out the behavior, perhaps more of those Muslims and Muslim leaders who honestly want to practice their religion while abiding by the rules everyone else has to abide by will find their voices and speak out clearly.</p>
<p>The only way things are going to change is to stand up to the bullies. Let&#8217;s keep up the pressure.</p>
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		<title>By: Always On Watch</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Here was a couple that appeared to be the picture of assimilation and tolerance....&lt;/i&gt;

Yet, Hassan sawed off his wife&#039;s head because she dared to seek a divorce -- after lots of physical abuse, which was known by the community.  As far as we know right now, not a single Moslem came to her assistance.

My theory is that Hassan got &quot;revived&quot; at one of the mosques in Buffalo.  I&#039;ve read in years past that at least one mosque there is Wahhabist in orientation.  Also, I&#039;m wondering if Aasiya Hassan was moving away from Islam.  She clearly was taking a daring step in filing for divorce from the husband with whom Islam demands that she stay, no matter what. 

You called it exactly right, Raven, when you stated, &lt;i&gt;the religion practiced by Muslims...is the &lt;b&gt;biggest&lt;/b&gt; factor in their culture&lt;/i&gt;.

I do admit that I&#039;m a bit surprised that this story has made it to the msm, while the same msm are largely silent about the Said sisters, murdered by their father a little over a year ago in Texas.  From what I&#039;ve read, the reason for the present exposure is that the National Organization of Women and similar groups are expressing outrage.  As well they should!

Let us make no mistake: the murders of the Said sisters and of Aasiya Hassan were Islamic honor killings.  Other belief systems do allow for honor killings.  But in today&#039;s world, the vast, vast majority of honor killings are committed in the name of Allah and Islam.

The linked article mentions &lt;i&gt;the opening of shelters for battered Muslim women in a few major cities&lt;/i&gt;.  I&#039;ve heard of one of those in the D.C. area.  Guess what?  The Moslem women are afraid to go there!  Because without exception all of those shelters run by mosques virtually force the abused women and children to return to their abusive husbands and brothers.

I am encouraged in one regard, however.  The excuses being made for Hassan are ringing hollow with every American I&#039;ve spoken to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Here was a couple that appeared to be the picture of assimilation and tolerance&#8230;.</i></p>
<p>Yet, Hassan sawed off his wife&#8217;s head because she dared to seek a divorce &#8212; after lots of physical abuse, which was known by the community.  As far as we know right now, not a single Moslem came to her assistance.</p>
<p>My theory is that Hassan got &#8220;revived&#8221; at one of the mosques in Buffalo.  I&#8217;ve read in years past that at least one mosque there is Wahhabist in orientation.  Also, I&#8217;m wondering if Aasiya Hassan was moving away from Islam.  She clearly was taking a daring step in filing for divorce from the husband with whom Islam demands that she stay, no matter what. </p>
<p>You called it exactly right, Raven, when you stated, <i>the religion practiced by Muslims&#8230;is the <b>biggest</b> factor in their culture</i>.</p>
<p>I do admit that I&#8217;m a bit surprised that this story has made it to the msm, while the same msm are largely silent about the Said sisters, murdered by their father a little over a year ago in Texas.  From what I&#8217;ve read, the reason for the present exposure is that the National Organization of Women and similar groups are expressing outrage.  As well they should!</p>
<p>Let us make no mistake: the murders of the Said sisters and of Aasiya Hassan were Islamic honor killings.  Other belief systems do allow for honor killings.  But in today&#8217;s world, the vast, vast majority of honor killings are committed in the name of Allah and Islam.</p>
<p>The linked article mentions <i>the opening of shelters for battered Muslim women in a few major cities</i>.  I&#8217;ve heard of one of those in the D.C. area.  Guess what?  The Moslem women are afraid to go there!  Because without exception all of those shelters run by mosques virtually force the abused women and children to return to their abusive husbands and brothers.</p>
<p>I am encouraged in one regard, however.  The excuses being made for Hassan are ringing hollow with every American I&#8217;ve spoken to.</p>
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