Comments on: Hey lefties, this is what I would consider “torture” and “war crimes”! (crickets chirping)

By: Carlos

Carlos — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:32:51 +0000

Young_activist and Apple strike me as children who cover their ears and start yelling “LA-LA-LA” as loud as they can when confronted with facts, or even with opinions that differ from theirs.

Sad, but in today’s world all too common the way the left “argues the issues.” Again, it’s like a blind man calling the balls and strikes in a ball game. He may be right occasionally, but only by accident because he has no basis in reality from which to make his calls. Just like the left.

By: Bigfoot

Bigfoot — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 03:06:40 +0000

Looks like I’m gonna have to be more careful using “big words”. Some immature minds might distort them into something disgusting.

By: apple

apple — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 01:50:23 +0000

I’m sure bigfoot is “subjugated by the “gay rights” movement” every Friday night. (commence raven’s hypocrisy of free speech in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1…..).

By: Bigfoot

Bigfoot — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:36:45 +0000

And you have no right to talk about Palestinian excesses.

Ever heard of the First Amendment?

The left is concerned with addressing human rights abuses while the right is concerned with exploiting them to justify their bigotries.

Bull[bleep]! The left calls us righties “bigots” and “homophobes” because we won’t allow ourselves to be subjugated by the “gay rights” movement, but the crickets continue chirping as Iran executes people for being gay.

As far as I can tell, the left is ONLY interested in human rights abuses (or what it sees as abuses) that can be blamed on America. I don’t believe for a moment that crap about “the ones we can do something about”. The fact is, you CAN do something about other abuses. Most countries in the world have an embassy in DC. You can go down in front of the embassy of the offending nation and protest! On the other hand, you probably shouldn’t go into the actual country and protest. You might end up in one of their jails, or worse.

By: Raven

Raven — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:15:30 +0000

youngstupidass,

Yes it does change the ISSUE. Just because YOU don’t like it, or agree with it doesn’t mean it’s not THERE. Typical liberal fucktard you are: They who say, “NO it is not an issue” like to think their wish is everyone else’s law. Sorry it doesn’t work like that.

My view that this isn’t torture is as relevant as your view that anything less than kissing the enemies ass is torture…Debate is healthy. Democracies depend upon it. Republics depend upon it as well…

When you dismiss someone’s opinion, you dismiss the person as a useless entity…you become Nazi like in your thinking. And I know many a leftard who are just that. Have a look in the mirror and see past your greasy zits…you might see Hitler if you look close enough. I see him just by reading your crap here.

By: young_activist

young_activist — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:58:38 +0000

Duncan,
The left is concerned with American and American supported atrocities because THOSE ARE THE ONES WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT. In other countries the left is concerned about atrocities committed by that country while the bigots drone on about American crimes, not because they can do anything about them, but because they hate America. It is the same here. The left is concerned with addressing human rights abuses while the right is concerned with exploiting them to justify their bigotries.

And you have no right to talk about Palestinian excesses. That was like during World War II when the Nazis condemned the terrorism of the resistance. But in Germany, the only ones who had the right to condemn actions of the resistance were those who opposed the regime. In Palestine the only ones who have any right to condemn actions of the resistance are those who are also working against the atrocities of Israel, which eclipse anything the Palestinians have done a thousand fold.

Raven,
Unless you are a professional linguist this issue of semantics should be of no concern to you, and even if you were a professional linguist, it is irrelevant to whether or not what the CIA has done is right or wrong. You can call it torture, you can give it an Orwellian euphemism, you can call it whatever the hell you want, but that doesn’t change the issue.

By: Raven

Raven — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:22:05 +0000

young dumbassistist,
What Duncan is saying here is that he does not condone any of the activity we’re hearing about, from American military and CIA. However, it is NOT what he considers, nor do I, to be real torture. There are examples of what real torture is, and all of this recent reporting and memogating represents anything but torture. The Russian-Chechnya example is just one. And I have several friends who survived those times and it wasn’t pretty- and they laugh at this current debate about torture. If only people knew, they say…..

:luvleave:

By: Duncan

Duncan — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:15:44 +0000

Oh… the leftist cries of “BIGOTRY”… “RACISTS” in order to discount the arguments they don’t agree with. I’m not trying to justify what the U.S. has “done”, as I don’t believe that the “torture” memos discuss “torture” as the left wants to re-characterize/re-brand it as, and the post above was to show that real torture exists, yet the left focuses primarily on the U.S. and specifically on the Bush Administration while, once again paying lip-service to the atrocities of the Russians, Iranians, Palestinians and Al Qaeda. Sure, Amnesty International puts out papers and reports on other countries and organizations, but they realize that those countries/organizations pretty much ignore their insane utterances, and instead AI focuses on the easier to manipulate American government and media. And exactly where did I reference that Islam=Satan? Radical Islam is the enemy, just like the Communists and the Nazis/Imperial Japanese were before them.